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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Category:Metalic_trams[edit]

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New Version[edit]

Do you know the link on file pages saying "Upload a new version of this file"? I think it would be easier for you to upload new versions using this form. --McZusatz (talk) 13:32, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks: It is a much more logical place.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:50, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Er klopt iets niet[edit]

Hi, I'll do this in Dutch.... Over File:Interieur_-_Dordrecht_-_20063247_-_RCE.jpg: de beschrijving lijkt me niet te kloppen met de inhoud. Hoe komt dat? Weet jij dat? En weet je hoe je erachter zou kunnen komen wat het wel is? Groet - Dick Bos (talk) 15:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

De andere beelden kloppen ook niet met de Wijnstraat in het hartje Dordrecht. Ik vrees dat er een administratieve mismatch is geweest. Ik zal even in de kroeg vragen.Smiley.toerist (talk) 21:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Uncorrect date on a postcard[edit]

Hallo, this image cannot be from 1915: the tramcar is clearly a unit of the series 2500, built from 1932.--Friedrichstrasse (talk) 11:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The dates on the back are confusing: handwritten is 25 - XII - XV. The stamp is Torino, 18-19, 26 . XII, 36 XV. The poststamp is 20 cent? I have a suspicion that it is year 15 of the election of fascists in the parlement 1921 (1936 - 15 = 1921). This should make it the year 1936. Smiley.toerist (talk) 15:20, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The "Fascist Era" (E.F.) started on 28th October 1922. Then XV E.F.: from 28th October 1936 to 27th October 1937. So 25 - XII - XV = 25th December 1936.--Friedrichstrasse (talk) 17:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Category: Tatranská Štrba (train station)[edit]

Hi, sorry, I cannot understand why you made category Tatranská Štrba (train station). Oficial name of the station is Štrba. Especially when you moved only some photos into that new category. --PetrS. (talk) 06:08, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The two categories "Štrba (train station)" and "Tatranská Štrba (train station)" already existed. Tatranská Štrba is used for the meter gauge part of the station while Štrba for the mainline part of the station. However there where also meter gauge pictures in the Štrba category wich I moved. I have made Tatranská Štrba a subcategory of Štrba. It is already a subcategory of "Ozubnicová železnica Štrba - Štrbské Pleso" the small track railway line. To avoid confusion the category "Tatranská Štrba (train station)" should be renamed. I wil make a suggestion.Smiley.toerist (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I created a new Category:Poprad-Tatry railway station (Tatra Electric Railways) for the other joint station.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:26, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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ITX-Saemaeul[edit]

According to the source I got from Korea Railway Information Center, highest speed as follows:

  • Highest speed during operation: 150Km/h
  • Highest speed technically: 165Km/h

Hope this helps, — Revi 18:20, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, 150km/u is not the commercial speed (all in, including stops). I was afraid of that.Smiley.toerist (talk) 18:37, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you need help regarding Korean Raildroad, feel free to ask me on my talk page. :) — Revi 16:25, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Elmers End station (tram)[edit]

There is no way that a subdivision of the station category like this is warranted - it's not as if the tram part is separate like at Beckenham - it's just another platform. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:05, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Any station category can be further subdivided, as an extreme example Category:Antwerp Central Station. These subcategories have to be practical and usefull. In this category there only one picture (File:All change - geograph.org.uk - 225392.jpg) wich is dual tram/train. All the rest have only tram or the rest of the station as subject. I could name the category "tram platform" only this is to specific for some pictures. (File:Tram 2558 at Elmers End.jpg but I classify this one as between tram stops). The big advantage of having this subcategory is that this can be placed under the tram stop categories and other tram categories. There are to many non-tram pictures to classify te whole Elmers End station category as a tram-stop. You can of course classify the pictures individualy as a tram stop but then you mess up the category Tramlink stops where everything is subcategorized by individual tram stops. Eventualy Tramlink stops en trams will have to be categorised by routenumber as most big tramnetworks. For the vehicles I dont suppose you have a problem with "Trains at Elmers End" and "Trams at Elmers End" subcategories. I am aware that the Commons adapts to local taste for categorisations and I respect that. I would like to know how other UK Wikipedians think about these issues. Therefore I would like to discus this in the Village Commons.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Verzoekje[edit]

Beste Smiley.toerist,

Ik kwam een Flickr stream tegen met allemaal foto's van treinen en d8 he, dat zijn leuke bruikbare foto's en heb ze vervolgens overzet naar Commons. Ware het niet dat ik geen flauw benul heb hoe ik sommige moet categoriseren. Heb je misschien zin om me met een paar foto's te helpen? Ze staan in Category:Images uploaded by Natuur12 (clcean up2) en wanneer ze in de juiste cat staan kan de categorie "Category:Images uploaded by Natuur12 (clcean up2)" verwijderd worden. Als je wilt helpen graag want volgens mij zitten er best wat waardevolle foto's tussen. Natuur12 (talk) 14:51, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De eerste stap is deze beelden per land en jaartal te klasseren: voorbeeld: 2007 in transport in Belgium.Smiley.toerist (talk) 19:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ik heb al een flink aantal Belgische opnames verwerkt. Van sommige kan ik de locatie niet achterhalen. Hij is meer "materieel" man dan een station en spoorlijn liefhebber.Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:23, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Dank voor de tip en de hulp. Treinen zijn niet mijn ding maar ik geloof wel dat dit soort fotocollecties waardevol zijn voor de toekomst. Natuur12 (talk) 23:29, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Het is nu gereduceerd tot 336 beelden. Veel beelden zijn van trein excursies naar bijzondere plekken in het Luikse industrie gebied. Kom je dus niet zo vaak tegen.Smiley.toerist (talk) 15:14, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Geweldig :). Dankjewel. Mooi dat er toch wat zeldzame beelden tussen zitten. Natuur12 (talk) 15:30, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Alle Belgische plaatjes zijn verwerkt en ik ga nu ook die van Nederland doen. Het zijn er niet zoveel.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:49, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Alles is nu teruggebracht tot 138 beelden. Ik heb vermoedelijk alle Europese beelden eruit gevist. (misschien nog een paar uit de Baltische staten) Je moet nu nog een Japanner en een Amerikaan vinden om de rest grotendeels weg te werken.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Geweldig!. Heel veel dank. Zelf zou me dat echt nooit gelukt zijn gezien mijn beperkte kennis van treinen enzo. Natuur12 (talk) 10:57, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Het zou heel veel helpen als Category:Photographs by Peter Van den Bossche in cronologische zit. Want dan zitten alle beelden van dezelfde reis bij elkaar en is het bepalen van de locatie gemakkelijker. Nu is alles door elkaar volgens de alfabetische volgorde. Voor die 3 diesellocomotieven die in 1999 ergens in het oosten zijn.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:49, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ik ben klaar.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:42, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Plaza del Caudillo in Valencia.jpg[edit]

Thank you for a couple of postcards of my hometown! But I find some problems with Plaza del Caudillo in Valencia.jpg. That square is the main one in the city and it has had many names. Originally was know as Bajada de San Francisco. Later was renamed Plaza de Emilio Castelar. I think that the name was kept during de Civil War, but when the Francoist troops arrived (April 1939) it was changed to Plaza del Caudillo. About 1979 it was named Plaça del País Valencià and in the 1980s it became Plaça de l'Ajuntament. So in the 1930s it wasn't called del Caudillo, as Franco didn't use that title yet. I think that the picture is from the 1950s as the Ateneo Building, which was built in 1953, can be seen.
The other picture, the trams, is correctly located (that corner still exists and hasn't changed much) and the date could be right or wrong, I don't have a clue. Other user from Valencia could help you with that (Joanbanjo, for instance). B25es (talk) 05:51, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The two pictures where joined together so the dating is similar. I based my dating on the cars, but I suppose at that time Spain didn't import many cars, so you could have a Cuba-effect (only old cars in use). The building places the images in the 1950s. These are postcards without any identifying marks so I suppose these where official post office postcards. This classifies them as anonymous but unfortunataly not old enough for the eu-anonymous (70 years) unless Spain has a different PD age. Theoreticaly the tram picture could still be from 1930s as the postcard publication date can be long after the picture is taken. The editors often reuse an old picture collection. User:Smiley.toerist|Smiley.toerist]] (talk) 22:30, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spoorzone-project_(rail)[edit]

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File:FEVE Baskenland Deba 2.jpg[edit]

The description should be changed, too ;-) Wieralee (talk) 15:05, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trams in Liege[edit]

The tram network in Liège (1939)

Thank you for your wonderful map of the tramlines in Liege in 1939. It is really hard to find enough information or online sources to make a half way decent attempt at a translation based english language entry on the Liege trams before 1967.

(But yes, that is what I have been trying to do. Bien entendu, suis fou.)

PLEASE can you do something even more and tell me what the colo(u)rs means?

   Black lines = RELSE (?main line trains)
   Blue lines = TULE (?tramlines or ?trolleybus routes)
   Red lines = SNCV electric (
   Green lines = SNCV non-electric

I tried starting to guess but ... no, I think I've been guessing it wrong.

I am sorry I cannot write to you in Dutch. But I can write:

Besten Dank, succes en groetjes Charles01 (talk) 05:46, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded comments. The full history is even more complicated see File:Tram companies in Liege province.png.Smiley.toerist (talk) 07:43, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Diesel/stoomloc[edit]

Betreft: File:Stoomtrein Dort in stoom 2014.jpg‎ Wat betreft de dubbele tractie: Aan beide zijden van de trein stond een stoomloc omdat op het onderhavig traject geen keren mogelijk was. Sowieso klopt dus het verhaal niet. Bovendien gaat het erom wat op foto staat, er staat waarschijnlijk ook nog elektrisch materieel ergens maar ook dit doet niet ter zake. --Henk Bezemer (talk) 19:31, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Het kan zijn dat mijn geheugen mij in de steek laat. Wij kunnen beter de tekst weglaten. Het kan ook zijn dat een stoomloc het opgaf en dat men noodgedwongen een dieselloc in zette. Veelal eist Prorail trouwens dat betrouwbare tractie in de buurt is.Smiley.toerist (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Mijn geheugen heeft mij in de steek gelaten, de foto's die ik heb met twee stoomloc's dateren uit 2012, in 2014 ben ik niet geweest. Wat de tekst betreft laat ik helemaal aan jou over, nu durf ik niet meer.. :-) Succes.

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Rail Transport in London[edit]

FYI, the dbllr template can now handle the locations "St Pancras", "King's Cross", "Waterloo", "Victoria", "Paddington", "Cannon Street", "Charing Cross", "Euston", "Marylebone" and "London Bridge", plus variations thereof. Ping Geof Sheppard. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Südtirol Bahn[edit]

Hallo, I cannot understand what should be this "Südtirol Bahn": the railway is usually called "Ferrovia del Brennero" in italian, or "Brennerbahn" in German.--Arbalete (talk) 20:57, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is the name used for all regional trainservices in Sudtirol. see http://www.vinschgauerbahn.it/en/ The ticketing and trains are marked in these Südtirol Bahn logo´s.Smiley.toerist (talk) 21:16, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So, it isn't a railway line, but only the commercial name of the regional railway service.--Arbalete (talk) 21:44, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Its not a railway line and does not pretend to be, but it falls under the category (Rail transport in Trentino-South Tyrol). Maybe better to rename it `rolling stock of Südtirol Bahn`. There are similar categories such as (Rail vehicles of TER Alsace) within (TER Alsace).Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:40, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've modified the category ([1]).--Arbalete (talk) 02:13, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Genoa–Granarolo railway line[edit]

Hallo, the rack line Genoa–Granarolo is a railway, not a tramway. I've modified the category ([2]).--Arbalete (talk) 16:45, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Railway images among Internet Archive book images[edit]

Hello Smiley.toerist,

I have been going through Category:Files from Internet Archive Book Images Flickr stream and there are many railway images which are not my specialty. Any help categorizing them would be appreciated:

...plus the 15000 images a search finds. Considering the scope I have also requested help from WikiProject Trains. MKFI (talk) 06:41, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These images are mostly of the American railroad scene. That is not my strong point. I know much more about European railways.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:03, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Vehicle 6129 of the Charleroi metro[edit]

Hallo,

De serie 61xx voertuigen werden hernummert in 74xx. 6129 werd dus 7429. Of maak is een vergissing ?

--H2O(talk) 21:47, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bij mij is het: you see what you get. Het is in 1983. Dat het misschien later hernummerd is is niet van belang. De meeste kijkers die de nummering achtergrond niet kennen begrijpen er niets van. Ik ook niet tot je mij op deze hernummering wees. Zeker als ene een subcategory is van de andere. Is de oude nummering minder waard dan de nieuwe? Waarom geen twee aparte categorieën als er ook een beeld is met de nieuwe nummering? (maar die is er niet --> verwarring)

Het zijn ook andere maatschappijen: De SNCV/NMVB en de TEC. (ik neem aan dat de TEC ze vernummerd heeft) Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:20, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Het is hetzelfde voertuig, onder en ander kleurtje (maatschappij) en met een nieuw nummer. Een doorwijscategory is niet aangewezen. Daarom maakte is de oude nummering als een subcategory van de nieuwe. Met een beetje text uitleg is het misschien beter. --H2O(talk) 14:25, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

9000[edit]

Plaatjes geplaats, wat een vlijt. Hulde!

Met vriendelijke groet, Magere Hein (talk) 10:42, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Interview als bron (vraag Commons)[edit]

Hartelijk dank voor het delen van deze inzichten en overwegingen, hier kan ik wat mee. Met vriendelijke groeten --OlafJanssen (talk) 12:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Leuke foto's[edit]

Erg leuk om oudere treinfoto's in Asturias (& elders) te zien. Ik heb hier, dankzij de koepel van de oude gevangenis, de locatie toegevoegd op het perroneinde in Oviedo. Savhñ 13:19, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Er komen er nog veel meer, vooral Barcelona en omgeving. Ik ben net klaar met het scannen van Spanje 1999.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Netkaart Buurtspoorwegen Brabant[edit]

Beste Smiley.toerist ! Eerst en vooral mijn dank en felicitaties voor de prachtige netplannen over de NMVB, ik heb ze in mijn opzoekingen al vaak opgeroepen. Daarbij zijn me enkele (kleine) foutjes opgevallen, dit is zeker geen kritiek.

  • NMBS lijn 124 : Lillois ipv Lillios
  • NMBS lijn 124 : Baulers ipv Baujers
  • NMBS lijn 60 : Lebbeke ipv Lebbele
  • NMBS lijn 60 : Mollem ipv Molhem (Molhem is oude spelling)
  • NMBS lijn 161 : gezien de kaart in het NL is, zou hier eigenlijk Bosvoorde moeten staan ipv Boitsfort
  • NMVB lijn AL (Aalst) : de tram kwam niet tot aan de statie van de NMBS. Terminus van de AL was aan de Corneliskaai.
    • De lijn lijkt achterom het station gereden te hebben: dienstregeling 1933: Asse - Aalst - Oordegem: In Aalst: Overhamme, Zeebergbrug, Dam, Baudewijnkaai (begin/eindpunt sommige ritten), Nieuwbrugstraat, Koophandelstraat, Koolstraat, Paddenhoek. Het lijkt erop dat de tram het kanaal overstak bij Nieuwbrugstraat. Er is daar trouwens een Tramstraat. Ik vermoed dat Baudewijnkaai later is hernoemd naar de Corneliskaai. Ik wacht even met de kaart aan te passen tot dat dit helder is.Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • Beste Smiley.toerist ! Ik wou nog efkes terugkomen op de lijn AL. Ik heb vroeger (van 1978 tot 1984) langs deze lijn gewoond en heb meerdere buschauffeurs gekend, die voordien nog trambestuurder of ontvanger waren op de tramlijn AL, die me allemaal verteld hebben, dat de AL zijn terminus aan de Pierre Corneliskaai had en niet aan de statie. Ook de niet geëlektrificeerde lijn naar Wetteren begon daar. Die liep dan effectief door de huidige Tramstraat, dan links in de Nieuwbrugstraat en zo over de Dender. De schuine kant van het huis aan de hoek van de Tramstraat en de Nieuwbrugstraat herinnert eraan, dat de tram daar zijn bocht breed moest nemen. Ik bezit trouwens ook een foto waar men de AL onder de brug van de spoorweg aan de St-Annabrug ziet onderdoorkomen. Wanneer U dit op de kaart verwerkt, vergeet dan niet het ook op de kaart van de NMVB Oost-Vlaanderen te veranderen. Beste groetjes, Spm9153 (talk) 22:57, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • NMVB lijn Leerbeek - Edingen : Kokejane ipv Coquiane (Kokejane is deel van Herne)
  • NMVB lijn W (Waterloo) : Monument Gordon ipv Monument
  • NMVB lijn W (Waterloo) : Waterloo, Eglise ipv Waterloo, Kerk
  • NMBS lijn 147 : Sauvenière ipv Sauveniere
  • NMBS lijn 142 : Eghezée ipv Eghezee
  • NMVB lijn Beauvechain - Jodoigne : La Bruyère ipv La Bruyere
  • NMVB lijn Brussel - Leuven : de verkorte dienst W (Wezembeek) ontbreekt.
  • NMVB lijn Brussel - Leuven : de Leuvense stadsdienst 2 liep enkel tot Leuven Terbank, niet tot Tervuren. De electrische dienst Vossem - Tervuren had geen nummer, noch letter.
    • Ik heb het zo overgenomen uit de Rail Atlas vicinal, blad 40, Leuven 1940, De lijn 2 doorstreept rijdt tot Terbank en lijn 2 tot Tervuren.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • NMVB lijn Leuven - Diest : de verkorte dienst T (Tielt) ontbreekt.

Verder stel ik me de vraag of het niet wenselijk zou zijn, bij de electrische lijnen tussen () ook het nummer van het spoorboekje te vermelden. Ten slotte nog een algemene vraag : waarom hebben de kaarten van Henegouwen andere kleurcodes als die van de andere provincies ? Beste groetjes, Spm9153 (talk) 19:34, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

De kaarten van Henegouwen zijn veel later gemaakt met andere technieken. Groen was lastig te gebruiken met Openstreetmap kaarten als achtergrond. Het is de bedoeling de verschillende detailkaarten samen te voegen, de schaal is immers dezelfde. Het is mij alleen niet gelukt om samen te voegen met fotoshop. De kaarten zijn een afdruk van de betrokken fotoshop lagen. De andere provinciekaarten zijn handwerk op basis van een GTF spoorkaart detail fotos. Voor de rest informatie gebruiken van oude kaarten en die intekenen met de spoorlijnen als kader. De namen kan ik redelijk simpel aanpassen.Smiley.toerist (talk) 19:51, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Het zal nog wel even duren. Ik ga net op reis.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:12, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Alles is verwerkt behalve Aalst en lijn 2 Tervuren. Zie boven.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TEC line 365[edit]

Hi,

I used the terminusses for this line though the bus only goes to Charleroi-Sud on Sunday. But if you want to use the official name then it's 365a. --Dldwg (talk) 16:50, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The bus line Charleroi - Brussels started very early: File:Dienstregelingen 124A en 124B.jpg. Later it got the national line number 365a. It was limited to Gosselies only after the metro/tram was extended to Gossely.Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:59, 12 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ghent trolley and tram network[edit]

Trolley line[edit]

I added the different categories to the trolley line Category:Trolleybuses in Gent.

Do you think I can remove the in-service photos and put them in the right folder: MIVG trolleybus line 3/De Lijn trolleybus line 3/‎De Lijn bus line 3‎ ?

As for the photos taken at the depot, we can place them in the vehicle folder or in the line folder. I'd rather place them in the vehicle folder as the photos taken at the depot are not giving much informations on the line, however we can place them in a "MIVG van hool AG280T at nameofthedepot depot" this category would be part of the line folder.

I put the n°3 bus line in this category as well as in the bus category due to it being the successor of the trolley line. However as De Lijn and the MIVG have only put in service 1 trolley line, I didn't created a MIVG or De Lijn trolleybus lines category and I put them in the bus lines category.

Tram line[edit]

Also, what do you think if we sort the lines depending on their company, line number and length instead of using the Ghent tramline 1 which is vague as the lines have far evolved since the MIVG ?

This would also avoid having all the photos in one folder.

As I did for the trolley line. If we take the 1st Ghent line, we end up with 1 main folder Ghent tramline 1 and different sub-folders: -MIVG tram line 1 -De Lijn tram line 1 (1991) -De Lijn tram line 1 (date where extensions were opened)

As for the 3rd line we can place a cat see also in each sub-folder for easier navigation.

If you agree, I can give it a try for the 1st line and see what it looks like ?

Also, the 1st line only seemed to have ben extended to Evergem and Flanders Expo, is that right ?

Dldwg

Line numbering[edit]

Historicaly line numbers have shifted:

  • The original tramline 1 (from 1931) ran from Moscow (now line 4 from 1984) to Van Beverenplein. From 1984 partial service line numbers where created:
    • Line 11: Sint-Pietersstation - Van Beverenplein
    • Line 12: Sint-Pietersstation - Korenmarkt
    • Lijn 10: Sint-Pietersstation - Wondelgem-Industrieweg (from 1989)
    • 2004: The line numbers where reduced to the line number 1 with the use of destination boards
  • The original tramline 3 (until 1969) was replaced by the buses 30/31 and then in 1989 by trolleybus line 3 until 2009.
  • Line 4: Before 1984 it was Sint-Pietersstation - Korenmarkt - Muide. From 1984 on it took over the tram line 10 Sint-Pietersstation - Muide (via Rabot) and took over the tram line 1 between Korenmarkt and Moscow. As with tram line 1, this tram line has also known the partial variants 40, 41, 42 and 43.

For the history of line numbers you can consult the Dutch articles: nl:Tramlijn 1 (Gent) and nl:Tramlijn 4 (Gent). The biggest risc of confusion is with tram line 10:

I would suggest to rename (MIVG tram line 10) to (MIVG tram line 10 Sint-Pieters Muide). Trams with line numbers 10, 11 and 12 (after 1984) I would classify as line 1 and explain in the category description wat is going on. As far as I know their are no pictures of these lines, but they my turn up in the future.Smiley.toerist (talk) 14:35, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

File:UAZ-452 in Barentsburg, Svalbard.jpg[edit]

Look at this revision, please. I didn't managed this movement. I'm cleaning redirected categories only, because they should be empty. Look at effects of your edit here, please... Is it what you would like to achieve?

Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 09:47, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is a major difference between ´in a country´ and ´of a country´. The first one is a pure geografic classification. All vehicles present in the country whatever their origin. The second one means original from that country, but it does not mean it has to be present in the country. The Sovjet Union is no longer, so al pictures taken after 1991 must be ´of the Sovjet Union´ meaning Sovjet origin. Only pictures taken before 1992 taken ´´´in´´´ the Sovjet Union can be classified as such. (Maybe with the exception of out of use vehicles in a museum) You should treat the Sovjet Union the same way as Austria-Hungary or any other ex country. It is preferable to use the Russian categories for most cases of geografic identifation, as their is no posible confusion wathever the date. If the vehicle is of Sovjet Union (built/origin) you can use the category of the Sovjet Union. These can then be photografed anywhere in the world. Aother example: File:Herzele t'Uilekot en buurtspoorwegstation-3.jpg I cant classify this under (Trams in Brussels) as this is in Herzele, but I did put it under (Old and heritage trams from Brussels). The use of the word ´from´ clearer in this case.Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:01, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Smiley.toerist: REDIRECTED CATEGORIES SHOULD BE EMPTY. Wieralee (talk) 11:39, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • I disagree with the redirect, most images should remain in the category of the Sovjet Union see arguments above. I started a discussion in the Village Pump: [3]. Maybe the category should be renamed: Vehicles from the Soviet Union. You really cant have recent images of vehicles in an non-existing country!Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:20, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Smiley.toerist: you should talk to User:Verdy p who has moved the category. You can change its placement, but don't put files in redirected categories, please.
I only care for redirected categories. Files in such categories are hidden: nobody can see them. Wieralee (talk) 12:24, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the redirect so it is no longer a redirected category. I asked for a rename. In the other category most are old pictures or pictures of Sovjet era vehicles in museums (in ex Sovjet Union).Smiley.toerist (talk) 14:34, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Now in the Category:Vehicles in Norway as Barentsburg is in Svalbard, Norway. Category:UAZ-452 is Soviet Union vehicle. So both geografic and type vehicle categories are correct. Case closed.Smiley.toerist (talk) 19:53, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hoort Amsterdam Rembrandtsplein.backside inderdaad bij Amsterdam?[edit]

Dag Smiley.toerist, hoort Amsterdam Rembrandtsplein.backside inderdaad bij Amsterdam? Er staat namelijk Dordrecht op de kaart. Groeten, Wouter (talk) 06:57, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is mij ook opgevallen. Maar zie vergelijkbaar [4] De drukker moet in de tijd flink hebben zitten knoeien. Stukken tekst zijn afgesneden aan de linkerkant en de achterkant is ondersteboven als je de kaart links rechts omdraait. Die moet gedacht hebben als de voorkant maar klopt, moet de achterkant alleen bruikbaar zijn. Dordrecht heeft alleen een paardentram gekend. Fouten op briefkaarten komen vaker voor zoals in File:Amsterdam Hoogesluis.jpg. Als je Hogesluis in Amsterdam opzoekt kom je op een heel andere plek uit. Wel in de buurt maar toch. Ik vraag mij trouwens af of de opname aan de voorkant van H.J. Tollens (1864 – 1936) is. www.regionaalarchiefdordrecht.nl. Mijn vermoeden is dat briefkaartpapier is herbruikt voor andere opnames. zie nummer 73 in http://www.dordtsekaart.nl/venvdwd.html.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tournai tram map[edit]

Hi,

I made a Google My Maps map of Tournai tram at the end of year 1951, I credited you as I used your Tournai Tramnet map for lots of details.

Links to the map --Dldwg (talk) 14:43, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Antwerpen-centraal[edit]

See the position of the Belgian flag!! It is (also) the opening of the connection to the Netherlands...--Bezeh.nl (talk) 22:48, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

At the same time in Lille, France the other end of the opened connection:
The two flags hung verticaly
. The French flag: File:Bandera francesa.jpg, The Dutch flag: File:2008-04-30 oude st mauritius silvolde met vlag.JPG. Both flags have the same colours (Red, white, bleu) but in different order and orientation. (Dutch: Red, white, bleu in higher, lower order) French: (bleu, white, red, from pole end to flag end). In Antwerp both Belgian and French flag are shown in normal position with vertical colours.
In 1986 there is no opening of a new train connection between Belgium and the Netherlands.Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:59, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Helaas, ik heb volkomen ongelijk :-) Inderdaad heeft de Belgische vlag ook "staande" banen.. Ik zal voortaan wat beter oriënteren. --Bezeh.nl (talk) 15:15, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

File:Alsdorf Poststrabe 2016.jpg[edit]

Alsdorf Poststrabe 2016.jpg

Hello Smiley.toerist, I just discovered your Image Alsdorf Poststrabe 2016.jpg. I really like it but I'm nearly 100% sure, it is not taken at Alsdorf Poststraße but at Alsdorf Annapark.--Trockennasenaffe (talk) 12:53, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. I had arrived with a train that went no further and waited for the train to Stolberg.Smiley.toerist (talk) 13:10, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Motivation for removing dating categories?[edit]

The answer is simple. Before my edits, there was overcategorization. There shouldn't be any images in the categories like Category:May 2017 in Romania while there are more precise date categories. All images should be placed in the Category:May 2017 Romania photographs or even better more precise in the full date category. So I do that. Look now to all date and Romania categories in 2017, from January to December: Category:May 2017 in Romania. Now there is a order. All images are placed in the precise full date Romania categories like Category:Romania photographs taken on 2017-05-23. So that's all. --Halavar (talk) 10:30, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I overlooked the hidden categories. I see now you removed the upper redundant category level. I would be nice if aditional local categories such as '2017 in Focșani' are created, but thats long time work. Such tings need to be done comprehensively. (Then all pictures of Focșani to be year categorised)Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:56, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Horse-drawn carriages in Austria-Hungary[edit]

Partiment de l'Empèri d'Àustria-Ongria.png

Hi Smiley.toerist. I see you have created this new category but do you understand that because you have done that you must finish its tree right up to the end. If you cannot do that I plan to revert your edit. OK?

The reason for reverting your edit is that you have broken the system and I am trying - over days of work so far – to put it back together. Please would your revert your edit if you are unwilling to create all the categories for this "new" country. Thank you, Eddaido (talk) 09:55, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As a rule al South-Tirol images from before 1919 are also put into the Austria-Hungary categories. The regional categories are no problem. South-Tirol was not part of Italy, but of Austria-Hungary empire. After WW I the region was annexed by Italy. I created other Austria-Hungary categories such as Category:Photochrom prints collection (Austria-Hungary). I will look upp the tree to make it complete.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:23, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Do you choose to fail to understand or must I explain the problem more carefully? Eddaido (talk) 10:24, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK non sequitur for non sequitur. Do you really not understand why there is a problem? Eddaido (talk) 10:28, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No because for me a country is also defined by time. In South-Tirol everything from before 1918 is Austria-Hungary and after that Italy. The region switched countries. Otherwise you can use the presentday country. Under wich country wil you classify images of the Crimea? Ukraine, Russia or the Sovjet Union? In most cases one takes the easy way out and just use the local Crimea categories.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:55, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I didn't read And understand the last sentence of your last message. (vide "I will look upp the tree to make it complete.") It would be so much simpler to leave the place in whichever nation it is at present. There are so many former arrangements very like Austria-Hungary all round the world recognising them makes this categorising very difficult. I look forward with interest to see what you achieve. If you come up with something rational there's no use in me complaining any further. Lot of typing for you though. Eddaido (talk) 10:40, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is in practice not that great. The number of images/files from before 1919 in the 'annexed' region are limited. All the rest and current images can all use Italy categories.
Yes, good point (time or period) and always well understood. I'd like to see political re-arrangements accounted for but to do so would mean an enormous inflation of categories. e.g. Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia . . . Have you adjusted the categories at issue to suit your views? If you haven't may I suggest you identify but feed back e.g. South-Tirol to Italy just because that is the current arrangement. Otherwise carrying your plans to a logical conclusion means creating a new country for the region of your concern and a large number of new categories - I suspect you are unaware of the sheer volume of categories, I look forward to seeing that. Eddaido (talk) 11:07, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not American (or European) and there was a chill about South-Tirol that I liked when I've passed through. Do you think this topic should be discussed where a consensus of quite a number of editors can be reached? Eddaido (talk) 11:28, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Sovjet Union, Ottoman empire are not really problematic as they divided themselves up in new countries and the presentday countries can be used. Only really specific things such as maps have to connected to the earlier countries. I see more problems with moving borders such as between Germany, Poland and Russia. There are two separate categories for Category:Königsberg (German period) and Category:Kaliningrad (Sovjet union, Russia, it was attached to Russia in Sovjet times after occupation) Its not even the same population or language, most Germans where expelled. The reality is often messy.Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:54, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This means no category named Czechoslovakia? Eddaido (talk) 10:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Of course there are Czechovakia categories as there is Category:Horse-drawn carriages in Slovakia. I suggest you put Horse-drawn carriages in Prague and other Czech cities in Category:Horse-drawn carriages in the Czech Republic. There are typical Czechoslovakian categories such as Category:ČSAD and Category:ČSD (the Czechoslovakian national bus and rail compagnies who later split up. Another category time split is between Category:Coastal tram, Belgium and Category:NMVB/SNCV Coastline(until 1991). Its not always clear cut. Category:Tramparade 125 year vicinal railways are pictures taken in 2010 after the vicinal period, but subject is of course the vicinal railway. There are no hard rules but we do the best we can.Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:17, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I quote "Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Sovjet Union, Ottoman empire are not really problematic as they divided themselves up in new countries". I read that to mean Czechoslovakia you want divided up. Your response ("Of course there are Czechovakia categories") leaves me very puzzled. And then at the end you add "There are no hard rules but we do the best we can."?? Eddaido (talk) 11:26, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lets start again:

  • In principle the presentday countries in the 'by country categories' are used unless it can cause confusion for historic images. (99 % of cases)
  • Slovakia was a region within Czechoslovakia. It is stil Slovakia also in earlier times. If you go further back to 1919 it was part of the Austria-Hungary nation. There is no confusion because 'Slovakia' refers in this case to a 'historic' region within Czechoslovakia and Austria-Hungary.
  • With annexation of a region by another country, there is a clear break in the nationality of the region. After 1919 the South Tirol region is no longer Austria-Hungarian (Austrian part) but Italian.
  • If a subject is clearly linked to a specific country (also historic) the country category is used. Examples are flags, symbols, maps, banknotes, poststamps, national companies, etc

Within the Commons there is no authority to impose rules. (Wih the exception of the WMF about license matters. Wich files can be uploaded) Rules and practices evolve gradualy as 'best practice' with a maximun of freedom, so there is a lot of variation. When there is a conflict it can be resolved with a voting procedure within the community. But mostly a concensus develops. So the rules stated above is my view of best practice. That is why I wil move the discussion to Commons:Village Pump for the input of others.Smiley.toerist (talk) 18:38, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, (first section) no problem to me, never disputed. Your problem is you (incompletely) re-categorised a historic image of South-Tirol to Austria-Hungary. The principles on which you made that edit is what needs public debate (see my suggestion to you made a long way above) and I look forward to that debate. Eddaido (talk) 11:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

File Gent tram maart 1982 21[edit]

Hi,

By any chance, do you know where you took this photo back in 1982 ?

Dldwg (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See nl:Gentse tram#Evolutie tramnet 1961-2010 (Op 31 augustus 1982:...)Two sections of tramline where opened in early 1982:

  • The shortcut section from 'Gent Nieuwevaartbrug' (bridge) to 'Francisco Ferrierlaan' (used to run along to canal)
  • and from 'Gent Van Beverenplein' to Botestraat. As this is a curved section I suspect the Koleegemstraat.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:11, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
I asked this question as someone on the T2000-forum asked for it. However you may have made a mistake, as you took this photo in Brussel here.
Here is the forum topic. Dldwg (talk) 13:00, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct, this is Anderlecht, Brussels.Smiley.toerist (talk) 19:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Diamanten zijn niet (helaas ?) eeuwig...[edit]

Dag, ik aarzelde om deze sub-categorisatie te doen, maar het is essentieel. Er zijn echt te veel foto's om te sorteren Face-crying.svg ... en in waarheid ben ik een beetje lui Sifflote !! Dank U. Groeten, Julien -- Nanzig (talk) 11:16, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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South Devon Sea Wall[edit]

I think that Category:Trains at South Devon Railway sea wall in Dawlish would be better as Category:Trains on the South Devon Railway sea wall in Dawlish. Geof Sheppard (talk) 10:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:17, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tramlink[edit]

Is the category date of 2016 right in the following images, or is the date 29 August 2018 in the date field correct?

I suspect the latter is correct but thought I better ask before changing it. Oxyman (talk) 14:15, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The camera date is correct. I only needed to correct the time as it was Continental time, not English time.Smiley.toerist (talk) 08:34, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

By the way: I will continue to upload rail images I made during a trip to South England and London. London is now complete.Smiley.toerist (talk) 13:29, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bluebell railway is now complete.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Locations 1998 scans[edit]

It is done. Altona (talk) 18:40, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Eerste PCC in Europa[edit]

Je vermoeden dat de foto niet in Den Haag is genomen wordt hier bevestigd. Kwestie opgelost, denk ik, behalve dat nog onduidelijk is welke twee trams in februari 1948 nou precies op de lijnen 8 en 9 reden. Jürgen Eissink (talk) 11:11, 11 December 2018 (UTC). Met vriendelijke groet, Jürgen Eissink (talk) 11:11, 11 December 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Dit is trouwens bepaald een indrukwekkende database, jou vast al bekend – op de pagina met HTM-foto's verschijnt de eerste PCC inderdaad pas op 19 juli 1949. Jürgen Eissink (talk) 18:39, 11 December 2018 (UTC).[reply]
Hier (Trouw, 9 december 1947) nadere informatie over de twee dan nog te leveren PCC's [in het artikel 'P.P.C.' genoemd], met uitleg over waarom ze juist op lijn 8 en 9 zouden worden ingezet. Als de berichtgeving van februari 1948 juist is, en dus dit bericht daadwerkelijk bevestigt, dan móeten er ergens foto's zijn. Jürgen Eissink (talk) 11:53, 11 December 2018 (UTC).[reply]
In Het Parool van 10 september 1947 dan nog informatie over de samenwerking met België en de montage van de onderdelen.
De foto wordt overigens ook in De Waarheid van 3 februari 1948 gebruikt, waar de ingebruikname te Den Haag nog geen feit wordt genoemd. Op 4 augustus 1948 wordt in dezelfde krant in een artikel over nieuwe motorwagens gemeld: "Dit zijn dus nog niet de indertijd aangekondigde P.C.C.-cars", maar dat kan wellicht ook verwijzen naar een bericht over de verwachte 1949-PCC's. Het blijft schimmig, en ik weet niet zeker of die proef daadwerkelijk in Den Haag heeft plaatsgevonden totdat er foto's opduiken of anderszins hard bewijs. Jürgen Eissink (talk) 12:25, 11 December 2018 (UTC).[reply]
Dank je voor de informatie. Het beeld moet inderdaad op de tramlijn naar Tervuren zijn geweest. Het Haagse gebeuren is inderdaad nog mistig. Ik ga de 1948 nog eens nalezen. Vreemd dat dit Brussels beeld door journalisten wordt gebruikt. Ik vermoed dat dit beeld de enige gemakkelijk beschikbare beeld was voor journalisten. Ik denk dat er verwarring was met andere tramtypes (de andere bestelling van HTM, die wel is doorgegaan). Hoewel er in 1948 weinig tramhobbyisten waren die ook nog de tijd hadden om foto's te nemen, zou er in de NVBS-beeldbank, toch beelden van moeten bestaan. Mijn voorzichtige conclusie is dat er in 1948 nog geen PCC trams in Den Haag rondreden.Smiley.toerist (talk) 21:42, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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old Icelandic photos[edit]

Hi! I remember you talked about 1980s Icelandic photos. Have you tried asking on iswiki is:Wikipedia:Potturinn as well? :)--Roy17 (talk) 14:41, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, in the meantime I am buzy with other projects. For example: see: [5]. As soon as I have finished this project I wil look at Iceland again.Smiley.toerist (talk) 15:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Smiley Toerist 1981 Algeria trip[edit]

Hi Smiley.toerist

Many thanks for that : Category:Smiley Toerist 1981 Algeria trip.

Regards, --Poudou99 (talk) 15:57, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Categorie: Mastercard advertisements on vehicles[edit]

Dag, je heb vandag het bestand Innsbruck, Bahnhof Allerheiligenhöfe, 2.jpeg aan de categorie Category:Mastercard advertisements on vehicles toegevoegd. Ik heb het beeld onderzoekt, en de reclame op de trein is nauwelijks leesbaar. Ben je zeker dat het beeld voor de categorie geschikt is? Met groeten -- Renardo la vulpo (talk) 19:54, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mee eens. Uit de categorie verwijderd.Smiley.toerist (talk) 07:47, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Smiley.toerist: Bedankt! -- Renardo la vulpo (talk) 08:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15.000 uploads[edit]

It took a long time but I have reached the 15 thousand uploads. (There is no cheating with automatic uploads and every file is manualy checked) And there are a lot of scans wich takes a lt off work in image editing and research in finding out what was pictured and dating. The first own slides are from 1979, I did not takes notes and my memory is imperfect.

I will stop chest-beating and just continue.Smiley.toerist (talk) 08:25, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Verviers tram map[edit]

Hi,

Would you mind if I re-upload a new version of your map with the same OSM background I used for the other ones and rename it Verviers tram network map + date as for the others ?

I'll keep the SNCV lines on it of course and your author credit line.

Ldgdps (talk) 18:08, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why not keep the existing maps and add a new one?

'Verviers tram network map 1950.svg' in your style and the SNCV lines. Replacing old version files is not done unless they are absoluutly useless. This way there is more choice.Smiley.toerist (talk) 16:02, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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titelwijziging[edit]

Vraag je ook nog even een titelwijziging aan voor File:Uitzicht Den Haag 1986.jpg? Of zelf doen :). --VanBuren (talk) 10:03, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ik heb de aanvraag ingediend.Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:58, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Year in Province[edit]

Hello Smiley, Just for your information, maybe this is more easy to categorize a place by year to North Holland. [6]. Rudolphous (talk) 11:58, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bedankt. Ik heb even nagekeken voor Haarlem. Het werkt behalve dat ik onder 1993 in Noord Holland ik 1993 in Haarlem niet terugvind. (nu wel: De backoffice heeft even tijd nodig) PS: Niet nodig om in het Engels te corresponderen. Dat kan je aan de taalkennis van de gebruiker zien.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:35, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Indicateur SNCB 1933[edit]

Salut à toi,

J'ai vu que tu possédais l'indicateur SNCB de 1933, est-ce que par chance tu aurais les horaires des lignes du tournaisis et si oui est-ce que tu pourrais les uploader svp ça m'aiderait énormément pour l'article fr:Tramway de Tournai, je met la liste des lignes avec leur n° de tableau de 1931 :

  • 3 Tournai - Kain
  • 5 Tournai - Rumillies
  • 1 Tournai - Toufflers - tbl 401
  • 4 Tournai - Hertain - 404
  • 6 Tournai - Rumillies - 409
  • Ath - Flobecq - 403
  • Tournai - Ath - 402 et 410
  • Tournai - Courtrai - 406
  • Tournai - Péruwelz - 420
  • Tournai - Wez-Velvain - 399

Si tu as besoin d'indicateurs en libre accès j'en ai fait la liste fr:Utilisateur:Ldgdps#Indicateurs horaires en Belgique si ça peut t'aider.

Ldgdps (talk) 23:52, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File:Dienstregeling NMVB 401 en 402 zomer 1933.jpg est pres. J'ai aussi adapter Q81105988 et Q687656 dans Wikidata et poser une question dans Belgisch_spoorboekje_binnenland_zomer_1933Smiley.toerist (talk) 14:42, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merci ! Tu n'as qu'un tableau 401 ? C'est bizarre car normalement la ligne est censée aller jusqu'à la Grand Place et le Cimetière Sud.

Concernant la question sur les indicateurs je ne peux qu'être d'accord avec toi sachant même qu'une partie est bilingue de base et comme tu dis c'est le même contenu.

Ldgdps (talk) 18:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Le reste du tableau 401 est File:SNCV line 401 1933 summer.jpgSmiley.toerist (talk) 22:22, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Salut !

Un énorme merci pour les indicateurs, ceci dit, est-ce que tu pourrais me dire ce qui est marqué sur le tableau 399 en bas à droite stp, si ça t'intéresse par la Gand-Place tu avais avant 1930 uniquement la ligne Tournai - Hertain qui passait, en 1931 il y a également la ligne Tournai - Wez-Velvain qui a été mise en service en 1930 et ces deux lignes ont deux sens de circulation par la GrandPlace dans un sens et par les boulevards dans l'autre, et avec l'électrification de Tournai - Hertain et les autorails sur Tournai - Wez-Velvain le double sens par la Grand'Place es rétabli. Dans Le rail en Tournaisis, Freddy Lemaire et Jean Simonet admettent que c'est à cause de la traction vapeur qui ne savait pas monter la côte de la rue de l'Yser, mais ça ne m'étonnerait pas que ce soit à cause de la fréquence des passages plutôt.

Ldgdps (talk) 23:05, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Autoraildiensten
Doornijk : Nationale Bank ; Ijzerbrug ; Kortrijkstraat ; Markt ; St-Martinusstraat ; Asileweg ;Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenant aussi le tableau 420. Est que la ligne 411 Mainvault - Quevaucamps n'est il pas Tournaisian? Le tableau 422 est la connection avec St-Ghislain. Je ne retrouve pas Grandglise dans les tableau 411. voir File:Buurtspoorwegen West-Henegouwen.png. Pour un service electrique le service 409 vers Rumillies est tres maigre avec aussies des services de autorails.Smiley.toerist (talk) 20:59, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Salut, merci pour les tableaux !

Alors étonnement non, on pourrait se dire que Ath - Flobecq non plus d'ailleurs mais dès le début cette ligne partage une section avec Tournai - Ath d'où peut-être ce rapprochement, son exploitant est le même (TUV) et son capital 99 va être fusionné avec celui de Tournai tandis que Mainvault - Quevaucamps semble avoir été conçue comme une ligne Mainvault - Quevaucamps - Quiévrain et la dernière section ne sera jamais réalisée qu'entre Quiévrain et Pommerœul.

Pour le 409 vers Rumillies, il n'est électrifié que le 9 février 1934, la ligne est exploitée apparement en mixte vapeur/autorail et de ce fait l'autorail qui est plus rapide doit attendre un peu à Rumillies Solitude "stilstand" pour compenser cela.

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Volgorde van bestanden in categorie via datering[edit]

Dag, Smiley.toerist. Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent bestanden op datum te plaatsen in categorieën door aan de categorietoewijzingen een jaartal toe te voegen, je doet dat echter ook (veelvuldig) bij bestanden waarvan de bestandsnaam begint met dat jaartal, zodat het voor de ordening totaal zinloos is (tenzij je wilt anticiperen op een mogelijke wijziging van bestandsnaam, die echter telkens niet voor de hand lijkt te liggen). Omdat je ook door mij geüploade bestanden zo tagt met een datum, zie ik dat voorbijkomen en ik begrijp dus niet waarom je dat doet: het is nutteloos, en het gaat ook volstrekt voorbij aan de bestandsnaam die ik niet voor niks zo heb gekozen, namelijk om ze in categorieën gelijk op datum te laten sorteren. Mijn vraag is dus: waarom doe je dat en waarom ga je ermee door als ik al eens gemotiveerd heb teruggedraaid? Groet, Eissink (talk) 21:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Ik heb trouwens in het verleden al eens gevraagd om de optie om in categorieën te sorteren op opnamedatum (ofwel datum van kunstwerk) en op uploaddatum (zodat makkelijk is na te gaan welke beelden onlangs zijn toegevoegd), een functionaliteit die toch niet moeilijk te realiseren lijkt, maar het is kennelijk te veel gevraagd of anderen zien het nut niet van die superhandige toevoeging. Als die mogelijkheid er zou zijn, dan zou jouw werk helemaal totaal overbodig zijn. Eissink (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]
In een categorie zijn er veel bestanden van verschillende bronnen, sommige met datum vooraan of niet. Als er al een jaartal vooraan staat maakt het niet of ik een jaartal er achteraan plaatst. Alleen wil ik wel consistent zijn: overal een jaartal plakken of niet. Dit om uploaders aan te moedigen om het systeem te handhaven. Dat belet niet dat er toch regelmatig onderhoud gepleegd moet worden. Het is mij echter zeker niet de moeite waard om hier ruzie over te hebben. Ik laat in het vervolg de numerieke namen met rust (mits ze met de datum te maken hebben). Op datum is een manier om station bestanden te sorteren, maar er zijn ook andere zoals type treinmaterieel. Zo zou ik wel bijvoorbeeld alle Fyratrain plaatjes bij elkaar willen hebben zelfs als ze niet op dezelfde datum zijn genomen. In het algemeen vind ik de precieze datum alleen van belang als ze met een bijzondere dag (event, bijvoorbeeld marathon) te maken hebben. Voor de sfeer maakt het echt niet uit of het op dag 20 of 30 van de maand is genomen. Daar raakt ik soms lichtelijk geïrriteerd van personen die voor alle opnames per dag willen klasseren. Als je alleen op ongeveer een jaar zit te zoeken is het een ramp als je alle dag subcategorieën moet doorploeteren in plaats van overzichtelijke jaarcategorieën. Gelukkig kan ik dat omzeilen door de bestanden in andere tijdscategorieën te plaatsen, zoals 'jaar in provincie' of 'jaar in rail transport in the Netherlands' i.p.v. 'Netherlands photographs taken on xxxx-xx-xx'Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:27, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Misschien reageerde ik wat te gepikeerd, ik wil er ook geen ruzie over hebben. Velen hier hebben een soort ordeningstik, een aangeboren autisme wat dat betreft, anders begin je ook niet aan dit soort verzamel- en ordeningswerk, en iedereen heeft zijn eigen tiks, ook ik. Ik bekijk altijd al de wijzigingen op mijn volglijst en deze begreep ik eigenlijk gewoon niet: ze hebben geen praktische werking, gezien de bestandstitel. Doe het maar gewoon zoals het je goed lijkt, dat doe ik immers ook, en het kan geen kwaad. En gelukkig is er geen maximum aan het aantal toe te voegen categorieën: zo is er toch ook gewoon een Category:Fyra?
Ik zal nog eens nadenken over een goed gemotiveerd verzoek om de bestanden in een categorie makkelijker doorzoekbaar te maken, dat zou toch breed in een behoefte voorzien, dunkt mij.
De categorieën 'Netherlands photographs taken on xxxx-xx-xx' vind ik wel aardig trouwens, omdat het onder meer een mooi beeld geeft van het weer op een bepaalde dag, door het land heen bekeken. En als zo'n categorie werk heeft van vele fotografen, dan kun je er soms bijna zoiets als een tijdsgeest of een algemeen sociaal gemoed van die dag uithalen, afgemeten naar bijvoorbeeld de onderwerpkeuze, maar ook afgemeten naar wie er die dag wel en wie niet heeft gefotografeerd etcetera – beslist niet onaardig. Groet, Eissink (talk) 00:04, 7 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]
De 'Netherlands photographs taken on xxxx-xx-xx' fan gebruikt een script robot en hoeft daardoor niet veel handwerk aan te besteden. Bij sommige Britse categorieën zie ik ook datumsorteervelden die ingevuld worden door scripts. Ik ben met je eens dat er veel verschillende zienswijzen zijn over categorieën zijn. Ik hanteer de principe dat zoals ik er geen last van heb, ik geen actie onderneem of kijk hoe ik ermee kan werken. Helaas stel ik vast dat bij veel zoekopdrachten de bestanden gevonden worden door informatie in de bestandsnaam of omschrijving i.p.v. een categorie. Ik ben veel tijd kwijt, als ik weer een beeld wil toevoegen, om ontbrekende categorieën toe te voegen en ander werk uit te voeren op de plaats waar mijn beeld gaat uploaden. Praktisch kunnen kan de gemeenschap misschien een paar dingen afspreken bij stationsbeelden:
  • zodra er genoeg treinfoto's zijn een subcategorie aan te maken type: 'Trains at train stations in the Netherlands'. Deze dan liefst sorteren op datum en standaard 'Jaar in rail transport in the Netherlands' categorie toevoegen. Voor de architectuurbeelden over stationsgebouwen en andere niet spoorse zaken is de datum van minder belang.
  • In de bestandsnaam minstens het jaar te vermelden, tenzij de bestandsnaam voldoende specifiek is. (Ik zet zelf een jaar achteraan in de bestandsnaam en een oplopende nummering om onderscheid te maken. Ik probeer de nummering onder de 10 te houden, door andere elementen te specificeren). Vergeet niet dat bij Google search meestal ook op jaar wordt gezocht.
  • Zo specifiek mogelijk de treintype categorieën invullen, evenals andere details zoals stationsklokken, seinen, overwegen, treinpersoneel (staff), trappen, fietsrekken.
  • Indien er voldoende materiaal is subcategorieën voor trams en aanvullende voorzieningen zoals busstations. (kijk naar Amsterdam centraal)

Ik ga hierbij uit van de Nederlandse/Belgische situatie. Bij andere landen volg ik de al bestaande conventies. Bij bijvoorbeeld is Britse stations is de categorisatie zeer uitgebreid en gestructureerd.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:06, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Belgian_slide_scan_april_1982[edit]

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Category:Rail transport maintenance workers[edit]

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Gebleekte foto's[edit]

Dag, Smiley.toerist. Ik heb bij de gebleekte versie van een foto van een tram zojuist een sjabloon toegevoegd. Wil je dit alsjeblieft in het vervolg zelf doen? Je herinnert je misschien nog wel de zaak met Arkesteijn die naar eigen smaak Vermeer's en Rembrandts bij ging kleuren – dat alsjeblieft nooit weer, en je weet hoe dat is afgelopen. Zelf ben ik geen voorstander van digitale aanpassingen, want het is vaak niets anders dan de suggestie dat er informatie is toegevoegd, terwijl die feitelijk gewoon is vernietigd: het origineel is in beginsel altijd het beste. De afbeelding van de tram laat dat volgens mij ook wel zien, althans ziet de bijgekluste versie er gewoon niet goed uit, veel te flets en bijzonder artificieel. Maar in elk geval: als je retoucheert, dan daarvan voor iedereen duidelijk melding maken, alsjeblieft. Vriendelijke groet, Eissink (talk) 17:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]

P.S. De opmerking van Van Buren als zouden op 'zijn' afbeelding meer details zichtbaar zijn, is zeer relatief: bekijk maar eens de bovenleiding, meer specifiek de stroomafnemer. Het is echt onzinnig om twee verschillende foto's zo met elkaar te vergelijken. Eissink (talk) 17:40, 24 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Ter info: het is wel een gescande dia, waar naast de stofjes verwijdering ook een lichte level aanpassing is toegepast. De ruimte aan beide kanten van de belcurve weghalen. Daarnaast is bij is standaard bij het scannen de verkleuring zoveel mogelijk weggewerkt. Na 30 jaar is er meestal wel een kleurverschuiving.Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:16, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neandertaler[edit]

Hoi Smiley Tourist,

In het tijdschrift Grondboor & Hamer (Nr. 1 2020) is een interessant artikel verschenen over de bladspits die gebruikt werd door de Neanderthaler. Ook staat er een bespreking in van dit boek. Misschien heeft dit je interesse. Natuur12 (talk) 12:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lignes SNCV/NMVB et bilinguisme[edit]

Salut,

Quand je trie les photos, j'essaie de rajouter pour chaque ligne un Wikidata, j'emploie l'anglais d'office sur Commons ainsi ça évite les problèmes de bilinguisme, par contre sur Wikidata je les met dans les trois langues en/fr/nl j'essaie de mettre au max en néerlandais mais si tu vois une erreur n'hésites pas.

Ex.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tram_line_Li%C3%A8ge_-_Sint-Truiden

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q74120404

Amicalement,

Arflhn (talk) 14:20, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

J'ai connecté Q74120404 et Q80594484 dans Wikidata.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:59, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SNCV Grammont Flobecq[edit]

Salut,

Je suis en train de finir de numériser le plan des lignes SNCV de la province de Flandre Orientale, est-ce que tu aurais une carte sur laquelle figure la ligne Grammont Flobecq, ça m'aiderait énormément, car je n'arrive pas à la trouver sur les cartes d'époque et j'ai vu que tu l'as représentée.

Amicalement,

Arflhn (talk) 19:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarder sur http://geo.nls.uk/maps/belgium/gsgs4042/googlemaps.html J'ai une ancienne carte de Grammont et environs, mais c'est avant 1927. Sur Google Earth (année 2007) om peut reconstrire le tracé. Commencent par 'Papiermolenstraat' (Geraardsbergen) passant à travers Aldi Geraardsbergen (image GE 2007), de la le long la rue de Meerslos, puis connectant à 'Gemeentestraat' pres de 'Cafe 't fonteintje'. Entre 'Gemeentestraat' et Kastanjestraat à Goeferdinge (50 45 51.38 N, 3 50 21.86 E). C'est une estimation.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:07, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tracé posible: (50 45 48.19 N, 3 50 11.52 E / 50 45 51.33 N, 3 49 59.73 E / 50 45 48.25 N, 3 49 38.32 E / 50 45 47.37 N, 3 49 15.71 E)Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Je vois qu'on a les mêmes sources, je suis tombé sur une carte avec le tracé de la ligne qui confirme ton tracé, est-ce que tu serais intéressé pour traduire par la suite les cartes pour le wiki nl ? Pour les lignes j'utilise des modèles de correspondance lié à Wikidata ce qui permettrait d'être utilisé sans traduction resterait simplement les arrêts et dépôts à traduire.

À l'heure actuelle, les cartes du Brabant, de la Flandre-Orientale et du Luxembourg sont complètes.

Arflhn (talk) 11:29, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Je manque Geraardsbergen - Deinze [7], Sint-Niklaas - Doel, Hamme - Linkeroever et Hamme Moerzeke. Ci on prend la date limite de 1950 il reste Hamme - Linkeroever (electrique)Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:37, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tu peux jeter un coup d'œil ici j'ai toutes les lignes de cette province. Selon les réseaux je fais une carte globale pour y mettre toutes les lignes comme tu l'as fais à une date qui permet de toutes les montrer et après je fais des dérivés selon la date souhaitée. Je n'ai pas encore additionné les cartes de 1950 et celles fermées avant 1950 le temps de terminer quelques simplifications dans le code.
Mais n'hésites pas si tu veux qu'on traduises les cartes.
PS : tu aurais une date pour la fermeture de Audenarde - Grammont, j'hésitais à l'ajouter à 1950 justement.
Arflhn (talk) 23:32, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Deinze - Oudenaarde: Fermeture 1-3-1943; Oudenaarde - Geraardsbergen: Fermeture 15-4-1943 Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Je viens de scanné les cartes de 1922. Le probléme est que je sais plus les combiner dans une carte. Avec l'ancien version de Photoshop c'était posible. Voir: File:Flobecq 1922.jpg, File:Everbeek 1922.jpg et File:Geraardsbergen 1922.jpg

Combiné: File:Flobecq - Geraardsbergen 1922.pngSmiley.toerist (talk) 12:58, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Avec Streetview on voit les restant d'un pont ferroviaire à 50 45 07.21 N 3 43 30.60 E. Smiley.toerist (talk) 20:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Salut,
Merci pour les dates, je vais les rajouter, néanmoins on n'aura pas le plan de Flobecq - Grammont car elle n'est construite qu'en 1927 et 1929.
Exemple ici avec l'autorail vers Bassevelde et le tram électrique qui se donnent correspondance à Evergem Station.
Sur un autre sujet, j'ai relié la plupart des articles fr/nl à un Wikidata. Ceci à l'exception de ces trois articles : nl:Buurtspoorlijn Gent-Nevele-Ruiselede, nl:Tramlijn 377 (NMVB)/Oost-Vlaanderen et nl:Tramlijn N (NMVB)/Oost-Vlaanderen, qu'est-ce que tu penserais de les fusionner car ils traitent de la même ligne Gent - Ruiselede, la partie Gand - Nevele a été électrifiée sous l'indice N et l'autorail donnait correspondance à l'électrique à Nevele Dépôt, il ne s'agissait donc pas de deux lignes mais bien d'une partie restée en traction autonome qui donnait correspondance à l'électrique et de plus ils gardaient le même tableau 377. Cela s'applique à la plupart des lignes de Gand et d'autres réseaux, pour la partie wiki:fr je fais ainsi pour simplifier la lecture et classer les photos et documents.
Arflhn (talk) 14:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hsinchu/Chiayi station[edit]

You requested renaming of a couple of files from Hsinchu to Chiayi station. Did you notice that it still says Hsinchu station in the description? --Stefan2 (talk) 13:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Utrechts Archief[edit]

Dag, Smiley.toerist. Heb je opgemerkt dat het Utrechts Archief bezig is duizenden spoorwegen-gerelateerde foto's te uploaden? Zie https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=500&user=CompanjeBot. Ik dacht misschien aardig om je er op te wijzen, zit wellicht voor jou interessant beeldmaterieel tussen. Groet, Eissink (talk) 23:12, 6 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]

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Den Haag[edit]

Beste Smiley, ik zie dat je af en toe in Den Haag komt (???). Ik ben op zoek naar een nieuw plaatje van de Zonnewijzer van Albert Boeken; die staat bij de ingang van het ANWB-hoofdkantoor aan de Wassenaarseweg 220 (links van de ingang in het parkje). Kan je even berichten of je daarvan een of meerder foto's kan schieten? Ik ga ondertussen een artikeltje schrijven, maar ik heb alleen foto's van dat "ding" in Amsterdam. Bvd,Ceescamel (talk) 09:49, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Graag nog even bericht, anders vraag ik het iemand anders,Ceescamel (talk) 11:10, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hoi Cees, vond je deze niet mooi genoeg? [8]. Rudolphous (talk) 18:41, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ik woon wel in Den Haag, maar aan de andere kant van Den Haag. De locatie ligt niet op mijn route en ik bezit geen auto. En er ben er niet aan toegekomen omdat de opdracht een lage prioriteit heeft. Onder tussen denk ik dat er al een mooi plaatje is.Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Afvoer NMVB trams.jpg[edit]

Hallo Smiley.toerist, kan je die computervertaling in het Nederlands eventjes nazien? Voelt heel onlekker aan... Thanks. Lotje (talk) 12:43, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo Smiley.toerist, ik zag dat je reeds aan het werk was... De Nederlandstalige beschrijving zou ik anders formuleren. Wat denk je van De overtollige trams van de kusttram werden (in afwachting van de sloop of verkoop) afgevoerd en tijdelijk opgesteld bij de remise van de NMBS bij het Station Diksmuide. Of is dit toch niet helemaal wat bedoeld wordt? Thanks. Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 12:08, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Klopt maar de remise was wel van de NMVB. De trams moeten wel op meterspoor staan. Waarschijnlijk wel in gebruik voor de bussen, maar er waren nog wel oude tramsporen. Lokaal is de tram afgeschaft in de jaren vijftig van de vorige eeuw.Smiley.toerist (talk) 19:00, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Smiley.toerist: , lijkt wel een beetje teveel van het goede, maar wat denk je van De overtollige trams van de kusttram werden (in afwachting van de sloop of verkoop) afgevoerd en tijdelijk opgesteld op een meterspoor bij de remise van de NMVB bij het Station Diksmuide. Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 06:47, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ga je gang. Ik ben nu op reis en ik heb alleen mijn mobiel mee. Smiley.toerist (talk) 07:43, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Geniet ervan! Lotje (talk) 11:20, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File:Tram Bordeaux 03.jpg[edit]

Hello and good morning. I don't suppose you recall where you took File:Tram Bordeaux 03.jpg? Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 13:17, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, except that this is on line C in 2009 (File:Ligne C.svg) and has a wooden floor.Smiley.toerist (talk) 08:24, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The stop with the 'wooden floor' is Les Aubiers. -- Chris j wood (talk) 20:25, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Blanquefort tram 8.jpg[edit]

Hello. You have said that this photo is at the Eindpunt tramlijn C in Blanquefort, presumably meaning Gare de Blanquefort. However as all your other excellent photographs of the stop show, that tram stop has an island platform, whilst the stop shown here has side platforms. So I don't think this is Gare de Blanquefort. Any idea where it might be?. -- Chris j wood (talk) 12:00, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

The picture was taken a day later than the other pictures of Blanquefort. The picture before that is File:Bordeaux Saint-Jean 2017 04.jpg and is the last of the day. I suspect I went to the other end of the line C in the evening.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:33, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks -- Chris j wood (talk) 14:47, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think you are right. The terminus at the other end at that time would have been Lycée Václav Havel (it has been extended since) and if you compare the background of your shot with File:Station Lycée Václav Havel.jpg it looks identical. I have updated the en description and categories. I'm afraid I'm going to have to leave the nl description to somebody who speaks better Dutch than me. - Chris j wood (talk) 15:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback requested on File:Flobecq - Geraardsbergen 1922.png[edit]

I provided your requested map in response to Commons:Graphic_Lab/Map_workshop#Join_map_elements_in_one_picture. Please let me know if this merged map will be suitable. Or if you have changes, we should discuss them. Cheers DutchTreat (talk) 19:00, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is perfect, the joints are near invisible. You have to know where they are, to spot anything.Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:06, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jioufen bus stop.jpg[edit]

Hoi/hallo Smiley.toerist, iemand verzoekt een foto van jou te hernoemen. De verzoeker is iemand die massaal dingen wil hernoemen, maar scherp in de gaten gehouden wordt. Wil jij kijken of het verzoek redelijk is? M.v.g. - Richardkiwi (talk) (talk) 13:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC) PS ik kan uiteraard niet voorkomen dat een andere hernoemer/mod het wel hernoemt, maar dit staat er al enkele dagen, dus de kans is klein.[reply]

Ik heb geen bezwaar tegen deze hernoeming. Ik verzet mij meer tegen mensen die hun eigen systematiek willen opleggen en bijvoorbeeld de volledige datumgegevens in de naam willen verwerken.Smiley.toerist (talk) 13:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dat doet deze gebruiker voornamelijk, hij wijzigt de naam een beetje en zet er dan een datum bij. Maar goed, bij geen bezwaar, zal ik het hernoemen. Grtz. - Richardkiwi (talk) (talk) 13:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Foto station Gent[edit]

Dit is station Gent-St-Pieters, kun je deze foto's aub in de juiste categorie plaatsen en de titel wijzigen? Xetion40 (talk) 10:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brugge_station_in_avondlicht_2018_2.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brugge_station_in_avondlicht_2018_4.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brugge_station_in_avondlicht_2018_3.jpg

Waarom Gent? Bij File:Brugge station in avondlicht 2018 5.jpg zie je het rode lange gebouw dat nu aan aan de westkant van Brugge station is. De bomen zichtbaar in File:Brugge station in avondlicht 2018 5.jpg zijn niet te plaatsen in Gent, evenmin als het grasveld in File:Brugge station in avondlicht 2018 2.jpg. De zonnestand zal gezien het late tijdstip ongeveer NW zijn (station Brugge is NNW). Aan de noordkant zijn juist de bomen te zien met tegenlicht (Buitenboeverievest). In Gent zijn er bijna geen bomen (de omgeving is veel stedelijker) en de paar hoge bomen die er zijn aan de oostkant. (Delphine Boelpark bij de Bruggravenlaan). Aan de bestemmingen is het niet te zien. Kortrijk is rechtstreeks bereikbaar vanuit Brugge als Gent. Het enige wat ik niet kan plaatsen is de bebouwing te zien in File:Brugge station in avondlicht 2018 2.jpg, die is in Gent ook niet te zien. Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zoals ik al eerder schreef, dit is het station van Gent-St-Pieters op drie bovenvermelde foto's, wil je die aub wijzigen? Xetion40 (talk) 11:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Als je het niet ziet dat het Gent is, kijk dan maar even naar de perronoverkappingen en de perrons die in een andere steen werden aangelegd. Gent-St-Pieters is momenteel nog een werf. Xetion40 (talk) 11:55, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ik heb nog gekeken naar de andere beelden van Gent, helaas zitten daar geen plaatjes van de gemoderniseerde perrons. Op andere beelden van Brugge zijn ook de perronoverkappingen met de glazen randen te zien samen met de donkere tegels. Ik wil geen risico lopen en stel anderen te laten kijken in de Nederlandse Wikipedia Kroeg. Er worden er regelmatig met succes zoekplaatjes uitgezocht.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Zie https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kroeg#Gent_of_Brugge?Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:23, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:Spijkenisse metro 1991 3.jpg[edit]

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RENFE 120-0221[edit]

Goede nacht Smiley.toerist. I founded this photo from you. I have discovered that it is the RENFE 120-0221 locomotive, currently kept in the Railway Museum of Azpeitia. Your information places it at the Deba station, then from the FEVE company. But in Deba there are only narrow gauge tracks, and this is a locomotive of Iberian gauge. I suspect that the photograph was actually taken at the San Sebastián station. In 1988 the locomotive was there, as you can see here, a location that corresponds to your photograph. Voordat ik de informatie aanpaste, wilde ik deze met u bespreken. Greetings. CFA1877 (talk) 22:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem: it was a long time ago and on the rigth side of the picture, I see Spanish guage.Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SNCV/NMVB cartographie[edit]

Salut,

Est-ce toi qui a réalisé les tracés KML présents sur les articles liés à la SNCV ?

Si oui, est-ce que tu m'autoriserais à les importer sur un projet de cartographie openhistoricalmap.org, ceci comme sur Wikipédia sous licence Creative Commons CC BY SA 4.0, c'est un OpenStreetMap dédié à l'histoire, qui te permet de voyager dans le temps.

Je compte faire une demande à Wikimedia pour intégrer une carte basée sur ces données pour montrer l'évolution du réseau vicinal à travers le temps et plus globalement permettre à d'autres d'ajouter des lignes de tramway / bus / trolleybus / train (...).

Amicalement,

Arflhn (talk) 20:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pas de probléme. J'ai toujours cherché un moyen de importer des fiches KML, dans un project de Wikimedia. Les URL des tracés dans Google Maps sont peut etre pas permanent. Que se passe t'ille en cas de déces?Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:00, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Super merci.
Si tu veux sauvegarder tes cartes sur Wikimedia commons, il y a une démarche :
  • va sur ce site geojson.io
  • importe ton KML, tu obtiens sur la droite un long texte, c'est ton fichier KML converti en format GeoJSON un format libre qu'utilise Openstretmap et Wikimedia.
  • va sur Commons, tape dans la barre de recherche Data:Le nom à donner à ta carte.map, tu clique sur le lien rouge pour créer la page, tu copies le texte au format GeoJSON là où il y a marqué "... GeoJSON ..." et tu remplis les champs en haut (licence auteur), ça devrait donner quelque chose comme ça.
Ces pages ne sont pas catégorisables mais par contre :
  • elles sont sauvegardées sur Wikimedia Commons ;
  • tu peux les utiliser directement dans les articles, par contre il faudra demander à transposer ce modèle sur le Wiki néerlandais.
Si tu as besoin d'aide hésites pas.
Arflhn (talk) 01:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
J'oubliais, je te dis ça, mais comme je suis occupé à passer l'intégralité des cartes SNCV de Belgique sur OpenHistoricalMap pour ensuite réaliser une carte numérique que l'on pourra utiliser sur les projets Wiki fr / nl elles seront dans tous les cas sauvegardées.
Sur un autre sujet, sur l'article Buurtspoorwegen van de provincie West-Vlaanderen, est-ce toi qui a écris cette phrase "De opbergruimte voor het smalspoor bestaat in 2019 nog, maar is na allerlei functies nu buiten gebruik." ? Si oui, la source précise t'elle où le dépôt se situe ?
Amicalement,
Arflhn (talk) 17:26, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Regarder File:Afvoer NMVB trams.jpg, mais je ne suis pas certain de la date de suppression. D'apres Google les rails ont disparu avant 2019. La location est réutilez por les bus SNCV/De Lijn.Smiley.toerist (talk) 17:54, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse-moi je parlais de la ligne 21 Furnes - La Panne :
Bijna dezelfde route als de huidige lijn, alleen vertrok de oude lijn vanaf het centrum van De Panne, reed door het centrum, en reed niet achterlangs de bebouwing bij Moeder Lambik en bij Plopsaland langs. De oude lijn lag met enkelspoor gewoon naast de weg. De oude lijn was vroeger een paardentramlijn met een spoorbreedte van 600 mm. Na een periode van stoom- en dieseltractie wordt de lijn omgebouwd naar meterspoor, geëlektrificeerd en vanaf 25 juni 1932 overgenomen door de NMVB . In de jaren 30 heeft deze lijn eerst lijnnr. 13, en daarna 14. [7] De opbergruimte voor het smalspoor bestaat in 2019 nog, maar is na allerlei functies nu buiten gebruik.[8]
À propos de ces lignes, aurais-tu les indicateurs en 1933 des lignes autour de La Panne, Furnes et celles du réseau urbain d'Ostende s'il te plait (tu peux m'uploader les pages entière, je m'occuperai de les trier pour te faciliter la tâche si tu veux). J'ai finis de coder le réseau de Tournai et quelques lignes du Hainaut sur la cartographie dynamique à travers le temps et là je vais attaquer l'encodement de Kortrijk, le Westhoek, la côte et Ostende mais je rajoute avant une fiche pour chaque ligne. On pourra petit à petit avoir une carte des lignes de tramway en Belgique navigable à travers le temps et utilisable sur les articles francophones et néerlandophones.
EDIT et l'horaire de 1937 de Courtrai - Gullegem Izegem Ardoie stp
Amicalement,
LD
J'ai nr 348 Oostende Nieuwpoort Veurne De Panne (stoomdienst en autobusdienst), 348 (lijn 7) Veurne Coxyde (dorp) Coxyde (Baden) De panne, 348 De Panne Adinkerke, via Oostduinkerke (lijn 13)
349 (lijn 2), 350 (lijn 1); 351 Oostende - Dixmuide, 353 De Panne - Adinkerke (dienst 13), 358? Veurne - Poperinge, 360 Veurne - Ieper. Je trouve 358 dans l'indexe pour Veurne, mais pas de d',horaire. Veurne - Poperinge est nr 353. Je crois que il Y a une erreur. Je trouve pas de service local de Ostende.Smiley.toerist (talk) 21:14, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse-moi du délai de réponse, merci, pour le 353 service électrique 8 De Panne - Veurne, est-ce que tu aurais le terminus stp ? Normalement c'est De Panne Dijk mais est-ce que par hasard il y aurait une précision sur un passage par De Panne Markt ?
Le tram n°8 puis 20 passait d'origine par le dépôt où il y a actuellement le TTO et y terminait son chemin, plus tard il a été prolongé à De Panne Dijk par la Duinkerkelaan et avec l'électrification d'Adinkerque - La Panne n°13 puis 21 il est dévié par l'itinéraire de la ligne 21 par le Markt de De Panne.
Amicalement,
Arflhn (talk) 11:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Salut,
Un grand merci, j'ai d'autres interrogations sur ces lignes, je ne sais pas si tu as des infos,
  • Est-ce que tu aurais le 353 électrique Furnes - La Panne de 1933 ?
  • Est-ce que tu as dans l'indicateur de 1937 toujours un service passagers 348 Ostende - Furnes ou si pas un service d'autobus 576 Ostende - La Panne, car dans l'Indicateur officiel des autobus de 1938 ce service 576 existe mais il n'est plus fait aucune mention de service par tramway, je suppose que le service passager est déjà supprimé avant 1938.
  • Est-ce qu'en 1937 les lignes Furnes - La Panne et Adinkerque - La Panne portent déjà les numéros 20 et 21 ou portent-elles encore les numéros 8 et 13 ?
Amicalement,
Arflhn (talk) 21:02, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SNCV/NMVB Liège[edit]

Salut,

Est-ce que sur l'indicateur de 1933, tu as ces services ?

  • 459 Verlaine - Engis
  • 460 Jemeppe - Hannut
  • 460 Flexhe - Horion (probablement inclus avec le précédent)
  • 460 Verlaine - Ampsin
  • 467 Liège Tongres
  • 467 Liège Vottem Bassenge

Amicalement,

Arflhn (talk) 22:06, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SNCV/NMVB[edit]

Salut,

Suite à nos dernières discussions, je fais le point :

  • pour les tableaux 338, 342, 344 345, tu n'as qu'à uploader la page entière par dessus le fichier du premier tableau (ex. 338 pour la première page) je vais me charger de dispatcher les tableaux.
  • chaque catégorie SNCV/NMVB !Province! tram lines a son plan le tout est relié par l'infobox Wikidata à la page Wikipédia fr/nl correspondante Buurtspoorwegen van de provincie XX.
  • Ok pour scanner d'abord la Flandre-Occidentale on attaquera Liège, en parallèle que tu scannes les tableaux, je vais ainsi corriger ou compléter les articles pour chaque ligne. //// Je finis de corriger le réseau de Tournai, ensuite j'attaque la Flandre-Occidentale et ensuite commme tu l'as proposé j'attaquerai Liège. ////
  • Toujours pour scanner pour te faciliter la tâche je te propose de fonctionner comme cela :
    • Tous les fichiers de 1933 seront nommés comme ceux que tu as déjà uploadés : SNCB NMBS official timetable summer 1933 XXX p.YY.jpg avec XXX pour le numéro de tableau et YY pour la page, tu peux ne mettre que le premier numéro de tableau de la page ex. s'il y a les tableaux 345, 346, 347, 348, tu peux mettre SNCB NMBS official timetable summer 1933 345 p.YY.jpg je me chargerai de répartir les autres tableaux et créer leur page et ça évite ainsi les renommages.
    • Pour les description, là aussi tu n'as qu'à mettre que le premier tableau, ça me facilite la tâche pour répartir les fichiers ensutie ex. s'il y a les tableaux 345, 346, 347, 348 tu mets simplement 345 et ainsi je me chargerai de répartir les autres tableaux.

Pour te faciliter le boulot je t'ai fait une page déjà faite que tu peux utiliser pour ta faciliter la tâche, je me chargerai de compléter des précisions pour les lignes au besoin, là tu as simplement à remplacer XXX par le premier numéro.

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Amicalement,

Arflhn (talk) 13:55, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deux nouveau fichiers:

File:SNCB NMBS official timetable summer 1933 tabel 337 (stadslijnen Brugge) en 341.jpg File:SNCB NMBS official timetable summer 1933 tabellen 338, 342, 344 en 345.jpg Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:14, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary reordering of categories[edit]

Hi, are edits like this one really necessary? It took me an unnecessarily long time to figure out the actual substantive change (adding a sort key to "Trains at Bahnhof Tulln", which is a pretty useless change anyway) from that diff. If you keep a category on the file, it would be nice to keep it where it is in the source code to make things easier for others. There is no meaning to the order categories appear in anyway. Tokfo (talk) 22:21, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I like to put all the hidden and technical categories behind and all the (important) content categories in front. I also like to goup al the date and time categories together.Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:29, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lohner_GT8_in_Graz[edit]

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Öffis Graz (talk) 11:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lignes 372 et 406[edit]

Salut,

Aurais-tu les horaires des lignes 372 et 406 pour 1937 stp ?

Il semble que les deux ont été fusionnées dans les années 1930 ou 1940.

Amicalement,

Arflhn (talk) 10:37, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]