User talk:Contributers2020

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 16:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Closing DR

Please stop closing DRs entirely. Your closure of Commons:Deletion requests/File:David Gamboa.jpg was inappropriate, as we routinely grant requests by uploaders to delete unused personal images of themselves even if the 7-day deadline is passed. In fact, we would probably delete this image as out of scope if someone other than the uploader had filed for deletion. It has been a consistent issue whenever you participate in administrative tasks that you focus too closely and literally on following one rule, while ignoring other considerations and common sense. If you close any more DRs, you will be blocked from the Commons namespace. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:53, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

I see that you (Contributers2020) closed this request as "speedy keep" because it was not eligible for speedy deletion: this is not justified by any rule, nor by common sense. Brianjd (talk) 02:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Sorry. --Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 06:37, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

King of Hearts I have closed a completely obvious DR, which is this, it was deleted by AntiCompositeNumber but he didn't close the DR, so I closed it. I hope there is no problem with it and you'll not block me for that. --Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 04:55, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

I have blocked you from the Commons namespace, the main reason being that in a variety of situations, you continue to test the limits when everyone is telling you to stop. Allowing you to close such "obvious" DRs will only embolden you to stretch the limits even more. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:42, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Not only was this action directly contrary to King of Hearts's directions, but it was completely unnecessary. We have a bot for that. Brianjd (talk) 06:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Unblock request declined This blocked user asked to be unblocked, but one or more administrators has reviewed and declined this request. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. Other administrators can also review this block, but should not override the decision without discussion. Request reason: "So, WTF? So King of Hearts blocked me for closing a DR whose file is deleted. Can someone please tell me how doing this is doing anything wrong? Some admin unblock me for this misconduct of King of Hearts. (Just unblock me from the Commons namespace don't unblock me for COM:LRR and COM:RFR if you don't think so that is correct" Decline reason: "Please read COM:DR: "Non-admins may close a deletion request as keep if they have a good understanding of the process, and provided the closure is not controversial." You violated Commons policy, closing DR as deleted, and block for that violation is fair. Taivo (talk) 10:58, 25 November 2021 (UTC)" Administrators: This template should be removed when the block has expired.

(Block log) (unblock) (Change local status for a global block) (contribs)

 Oppose I wasn't sure whether to comment here. Now I know. The blocking admin's rationale speaks for itself: the admin clearly threatened a block, the blocked user clearly disobeyed the admin's advice, and the admin simply followed through on their threat. If we start supporting empty threats, the entire system of rules falls apart. Brianjd (talk) 06:01, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Also, the threat itself seems to have been justified. It was triggered by a clearly-inappropriate DR closure, as explained at the time. There is no indication that the blocked user challenged this threat through the proper channels; instead, the blocked user deliberately and knowingly disobeyed the admin's advice, creating grounds for this block, as evidenced by revision 609760961. Brianjd (talk) 06:07, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

So @Brianjd is this fair to 1. Block me for whole Commons Namespace? What the hell? If even for COM:DR it would have been sensible.

2) For 1 month? If it were for COM:DR for 7 days it, again would have been sensible. 1 month? Reconsider Brian sir. Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 06:08, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

And it is not like I did something wrong? The DR closure was correct, isn't it? Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 06:09, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

I suspect that blocking you from the entire namespace was necessary for technical reasons, though the comments about testing the limits certainly apply outside of DRs as well, so that may also be part of the reason. I won't comment on the length of the block, as I am sure that admins are far more qualified than me to make such judgements. Brianjd (talk) 06:13, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@Brianjd Can you mention which comment you're talking about. And no, there is no technical reason for which only COM:DR can't be blocked. Either way, it is again insensible to block me for anything (except COM:LRR and COM:RFR]] as my COM:DR closure was entirely correct and has no problems in it. Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 06:17, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

• KoH did state here " If you close any more DRs, you will be blocked from the Commons namespace - Common sense should've told you not to close any DR for the foreseeable future. Honestly surprised KoH hasn't just indeffed you from the project at this point. You're only blocked from Commons for a month - not the end of the world. –Davey2010^Talk 13:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

TimedText:Kim Jong-Un Pronunciation.ogg.en.srt

TimedText:Kim Jong-Un Pronunciation.ogg.en.srt has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this timedtext, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Pacha Tchernof (talk) 15:11, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Board election: voting is open!

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

The voting phase for our group's board election starts today. Please consider casting your vote. Voting ends on December 17.

I wish you all the best for the rest of the year 2021. Stay safe and healthy! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 17:03, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

• Umm Frank, I nominated for myself days before voting but after this diff, you deleted my nomination. Is there some problem, or can I again, add my name?. --Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 01:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  I'm not sure if you can edit in Commons talk namespace, but anyway, I find the removal of one candidate by another candidate without explanation to be disturbing, and I have asked about this at Commons talk:Commons Photographers User Group/Board Elections 2021#Removal of candidate. Brianjd (talk) 02:33, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  Thanks @Brianjd for at least starting a discussion. I appreciate that. Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 06:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  After much discussion at the election's talk page (and the apology below), I consider the issue resolved from my point of view, and do not intend to participate further. The election coordinator invites you to make further comments, if you wish, wherever you are able to post them. Brianjd (talk) 06:41, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  Thanks again Brianjd for the discussion you have made. I also consider this thing resolved, and nothing else can help. I'll participate in the discussion if the election coordinator wants me to. Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 06:57, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I apologize

Dear Contributers2020, I apologize for not notifying you that I removed you from the list of eligible candidates in the Commons Photographers User Group election. I was assuming that you had followed the discussion on the talk page. However, that's not an excuse for me not explicitly contacting you. I could have done better and I regret my behavior. All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the apology Frank Schulenburg. Also it was not a that of a big deal as even if you notified or not, either way I won't be able to participate. Hope you have a good day. Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 06:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

An unofficial unblock request

Hello King of Hearts,

I humbly request you to reduce the block to just COM:DR, COM:LRR and COM:RFR. I am so sorry for not adhering your directions, and now I am understanding it. I also accept that I should get a fair share of punishment, but Commons namespace, is, not required. I mean, I didn't do any vandalism or incivility or breaking a policy with the exception of COM:DR. Please, please consider. And also I promise, after the complete unblock on 1st Jan 2022, I'll not close any DR, even if it is deleted previously. Just please, unblock me for Commons namespace. --Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 08:47, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

You might want to sign your post. Brianjd (talk) 08:44, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah sorry actually I have a habit of the reply tool. That is why. Pinging King of Hearts again. --Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 08:47, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

For the first time, actually. Pings only work in signed posts. Brianjd (talk) 08:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes I know @Brianjd, that is why I pinged him again. Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 10:04, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

That is not technically possible; blocking you from Commons:Deletion requests does not prevent you from closing individual DRs, as there is no way to do a partial block on all subpages of a page. However, if you voluntarily agree to never close any COM:DR or COM:UDR request, indefinitely and with no exceptions, I can lift the Commons block on you. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:01, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I swear on God I'll never close any DR or UDR of any type till a time like you feel fit for that. Thank you so much for this second chance King of Hearts. Contributers2020^{Talk to me here} 03:40, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Done. There are various other things you can do to get a better understanding of Commons policies, such as participating in DR discussions. Just stay away from tasks that are normally done by administrators. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:03, 5 December 2021 (UTC)